Monday, May 2, 2011

I just don't get it

I may be in the minority, at least here in the U.S., but I simply cannot understand the desire to celebrate violence or murder.


Photo from Herald Sun


I've said it before and I'll say it again.

“Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Hate multiplies hate, violence multiplies violence, and toughness multiplies toughness in a descending spiral of destruction." - MLK


32 comments:

  1. *sigh*

    I can't say I'm feeling celebratory. I'm glad he was caught and the decision to kill him was the right one-- this is a man who murdered many, and even more innocent lives would have been at stake should we have caught and imprisoned him. Americans held for ransom, tortured and killed because terrorists want their leader back wouldn't have done anyone any good.

    But I don't celebrate. I still mourn those lost on 9/11 and those lost fighting the wars that followed.

    Sadly, someone new will likely take his place, and the whole thing just begins again.

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  2. Did I think OBL was taking up someone else's valuable oxygen? Yes. Do I celebrate his death? No.

    The chanting in the streets is no different to "his people" chanting over the death of Allied soldiers, an activity we condemn as being barbaric. Yet it's OK when we do it? Nup. I know there is a giant struggle with understanding irony, but I *know* you understand hypocrisy.

    P.S. On another site I was going to write a terribly stereotypical statement about "You Americans" and then I thought "NO! Kristin doesn't think like that!!" and it made me happy :) x

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  3. I am so happy that at least someone is taking your approach. I've been seeing happy posts all over the US blogs I read and it just makes me sad. Violence begets violence and like Draft Queen said before me, while there is violence, someone new will likely take his place. So how can killing one person, no matter how vile, be a cause for celebration?

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  4. I totally agree!
    I couldn't believe my ears when I was listening to the radio, waiting at the kiss and drop line yesterday afternoon!

    Obama's speech made me sick...I'm sorry! It's like he want's to be hailed a legend or something.
    Sure he is responsible for the death of binladin (a murderous dog), but to stoop to his level *shakes head*...He should have been taken in for questioning, atleast- Maybe find out a bit more about these horrible acts of terrorism!

    I just don't think it was a very good call. :|

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  5. watching from australia we're all so shocked at the celebrations. from what i can see on the news here it looks like college kids who would have been only 10 or 12 at the time of september 11. it's sad they act this way and it doesn't paint america in a good light on the international news.

    why do these young people think that is the way to act. i'm the same age but would not think of going out and celebratign like that. my only explainion would be they are fueled by alchol and group mentality. not an excuse but maybe an explaination.

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  6. I havent watched the news or listened the radio since it happened. Simply because..I don't get it x

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  7. @ Glowless & @ Tat - Most of the people in my circle feel as I do. They don't understand the celebrating either. Then again, I tend to hang out with people who think the way I do, so we're probably not reflective of the majority. I only know of one or two people personally who seem hyped about this. Everyone else is subdued. Relieved perhaps, not rejoicing certainly, and realistic that this will do little to stem the flow of violence and may actually increase it.

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  8. P.S. I'm referring above to my circle of American friends.

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  9. I totally agree with you K and the other writers here. I can't conjure any reason to celebrate killing someone - albeit someone "evil". How does that make us "better" than the original perpetrators? It can't! But perhaps our frame of reference is somewhat detached.... if we had a loved one in the twin towers.... perhaps we would feel differently.... I hope I never have to make that choice. To me there is a dull sense of surrealism... can this really be over? No way... there are so many others ready to stand in his place.... That just makes me sad, and I certainly don't feel like celebrating.

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  10. I was shocked and more than a little disheartened at the Facebook statuses I saw this morning celebrating and cheering---and the responses defending that mindset when a different opinion was posted. To each their own, I suppose, but I just can't comprehend celebrating death and violence, however "well deserved" it may seem.

    I don't understand how our nation revels in the same behavior that we find savage and repulsive in others.

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  11. In complete agreement. I have been quite shocked by the response to this, actually. I don't think people are really thinking about the facts of what actually happened; they're just thinking about a terrorist being gone.

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  12. you have seen my post and what I think of it and I am glad to say that I don't approve either.

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  13. mob mentality will do crazy things to people... that and patriotism ;)

    Having said that, I don't think it's acceptable. Pretty sure al Qaeda won't look upon it too favourably either. xo

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  14. It is refreshing to read your point of view. Hubby and I were watching the celebrations outside the white house yesterday and while we agree he instigated horrific actions we still don't get the celebrating death. I also didn't think it painted America in a good light internationally. I guess we expected America to be the 'bigger person' in this circumstance

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  15. Hear hear. Killing is either wrong or it isn't. If it all depends which side you are on then we are all fucked. And there's no cause for celebration in that.

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  16. You know my thoughts on this, and we definitely agree x

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  17. So, so, so agree. And just proves you are an honorary Australian.

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  18. America's definitely deteriorating.
    May God save us from the Osamas and the Obamas of this world!

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  19. I'm definitely with you on this one. I don't get it either.

    GOod, we killed our enemy. But the celebration is just in poor taste.

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  20. I don't agree with the celebrating at all. I don't even feel any sense of relief that he is dead, as I'm sure there is another terrorist leader waiting in the wings to step into Bin Laden's place. Do I think he was a terrible person and needed justice? Absolutely. Do I think Obama did that in the best way he and the Intelligence and Military community thought possible? Yes. I think they acted to avoid the loss of civilian and military lives. I just dont' understand the joy at someone...anyone's death.

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  21. I'm with you all the way on this one!

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  22. Hi Kristin, It's barbaric, medieval even, to celebrate the death of anyone! It's also primitive to make generalizations about a country based on media hype. The media will portray things any way they want and often for their own agenda, this is the nature of the beast no matter where you live. I'm with you on this one Kristin. I don't know a single person in my circle of friends either (I'm from Seattle, WA...a BLUE and progressive state) who celebrates this. In fact, the Seattle Times ran an opinion piece today entitled "Higher Standards" in which the author states "There is neither glee nor glory in the killing of any man." I couldn't agree more. This will probably be the topic of my next lesson on my blog. Thanks for this!

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  23. PS-I'm borrowing the MLK quote for my Facebook status today. Thanks. The other one I like is "An eye for an eye leaves the whole world blind."--Ghandi

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  24. Totally with you!! Definitely no reason to celebrate. Makes me feel ill seeing people celebrating this.

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  25. I am with you on this too:) Killing, regardless of how we justify it is not the way to live.

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  26. I must admit I was totally sickened by the scenes of celebration taking place in America as shown on Australian TV after the news of his death. I understand that 9/11 tore at the very soul of the American people, it was and is one of the most shocking things I also have ever seen on TV and the continuing aftermath of the deaths of the responders breaks my heart.

    But I am sorry, in my mind, the scenes of celebration show no respect for those that died, and have continued to die in the war on terrorism since that day.

    And to think the terrorism will stop because of his death is just plain naive.

    The cynical side of me wonders about the up coming election and the spin doctors working behind the scenes.

    No country should be judge, jury and executioner, for isn't that exactly what we condemn others for?

    Well done K for standing up and shouting out. xxx

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  27. If you are in the minority, then perhaps it is because you share the traits of MLK. When you have known enough violence, you find that you have no taste for it- no matter the circumstances.

    I'm with you. And him. If we be the minority, at least we are in good company.

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  28. Amen to that!

    Another great quote: "An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind" Ghandi

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  29. I totally agree with you. Death is just sad, even if it's someone like bin laden. We were appalled when there was celebration over 9/11 in some Middle East countries, and here we are doing it too. Shame on us. No wonder the rest of the world thinks so little of us.

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  30. Ditto. I agree completely.

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